The Gong Clangs Louder http://youlot.posterous.com Bong!!! posterous.com Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:21:00 -0700 Animoto - Hamster Hunters http://youlot.posterous.com/animoto-hamster-hunters http://youlot.posterous.com/animoto-hamster-hunters

Well that was a day to remember. My first trip to the seaside this year and a search through PB and Dawns house for the missing Cuddles the Hamster. All found and a great day out...

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Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:52:00 -0700 Blogging again http://youlot.posterous.com/blogging-again http://youlot.posterous.com/blogging-again

Well here we go another site another opportunity to self publish. Experimenting with this site has its advantages first to explore the possibilities of using such a site as a personal learning record and second as a way of experimenting with a web 2.0 technology that appears to be free.

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Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:17:00 -0700 Our Response to the Good News of Christ Seals our Eternal Destiny http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/10/our-response-to-good-news-of-christ.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/10/our-response-to-good-news-of-christ.html

When we hear the good news of Jesus Christ, God gives us a choice, choose life. The good news of Christ challenges us; do we continue in sin and death or choose blessing and life? (Deuteronomy 30:15-20)

Good is to know and do the will of the Father, evil is to reject the way and voice of God. (Deuteronomy 30:11-14). This is realised in our lifetimes, our deaths and our resurrection. We choose life and know blessing or choose death and perish.
In this life, death is our experience. We know suffering and pain. We know tears. God in his mercy has set before us life and death in Christ. In the good news of Jesus and in the order of creation, even our very being, life is set before us.  Life is the revelation of God; it is in our mouths and in our hearts. Love is experienced in what we feel, speak and do.
In Christ there is a deepening peace, an inner land to explore. In our sins this inner land is a place of death. In this death our inner land is despair and loneliness and we perish. We perish separated from each other and God. We are alive but we are dying. In Christ we experience the consequences of death but are reborn into a new reality.
God has set before us himself, in creation, in his people, and now in the church. He has revealed the way through the cross and the new life of the Spirit. He calls us to worship him in Spirit and Truth, not on a mountain, not in some distant land, not with our head in the clouds but in the normalcy of our everyday lives. He is in our hearts and our minds. In his mercy we encounter him in life, recognising only death in the things of the world. Will we worship God or the world?
And it will ever be so. At the end of time many will perish, some will be blessed. The sovereign LORD, each moment of each day sets before us a path and we choose how we walk it. God calls each of us to walk holy as he is holy. We are not worthy in our walk but because Jesus is worthy, we are made worthy. The life and death of Christ deal with our sin and as we turn to Jesus we are purified.
At the end of time, all will be revealed for what it is. God will consume all in his holy fire. What remains will be precious. The cross stands eternal, high and lifted up. It consumes all sin, eternally, that is its power.
All that rejects God is burned up (Deuteronomy 4:24). The fire purifies (Matthew 3:11-12). To suffer loss in the fire will hurt (1 Corinthians 3:10-15) but what remains is precious. To suffer eternal loss is a fearful thing; to be found with no precious foundation is eternal death. The consequence of turning from the living God is eternal fire. This is hell.
We have life in Christ; we have come through the fire. The cross has brought us into eternal life. Jesus speaks of the realities of the fires of hell and the reality of eternal life which is freely given in Christ. It is anathema that anyone is created for hell, and I believe that nowhere is it taught in scripture. God is fully justified in condemning us all to eternal separation but love is perfected in saving us. Embrace Christ and receive life.

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Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:09:00 -0700 Reprise http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/10/reprise.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/10/reprise.html The salty sands edge
to the calmed sea.
In the foreground an egret feeds.
White.
Long necked.
Nearness puts the bird to flight:
There is no threat.

Back in the kitchen, soft,
A memory revisited;
A recalled gaze of a dead sister,
Pleads,
'Do not go'; scarred,
A tear  bleeds

I have felt death's sting.
My hope is secure.
Do not forsake me God.

Back in the old country
Every room presents the One pierced
For my iniquity.
In whose death and ressurection
My hope rests.

Silver, wood stone and bronze;
Solid, yet my Christ
was a man of flesh.
The futility of life broke
his heart.

As my body fails;
Father, do not forsake me.

I marvel at the certainty of a future
Spoken from aging lips.
Next year, next year...
My fear is untimely
Time is not mine.
Its reality is hard to grasp
A momentry gift.

I am not able to say,
This is for the good.
God weeps with me now,
Redeems my past
Stands, waits, receives.

Have mercy on me.
LORD hear my prayer.

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Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:56:00 -0700 Medway http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/10/medway.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/10/medway.html Autumn evening shadowed by rain.
Across the mud flats a brackish smell broods
Over the slow movement of the water
And the black weed thrown on the shore.

In a short green skirt she rakes sand
In a preposterous gordy sea shanty garden

Why do all the perverts wait for me?
Laughing gulls and whistling oyster catchers
Plastic bags, red and white, empty bottles.

Can't they shut away the mad, fat people?
Snuffling weirdos with wary looks
Short people, disproportionate cleft faced
Drunkards in trainers
Smearing fear on my mind.

I should feel hope!
Be a bearer of light and shed joy;
Work compassion- work!

But my mind is invaded
In songs, screams, walls, pages;
Public conveniences.

It's sad.
I'm sad.
Lift your head you gates.
Be lifted up ancient doors.
The sun sinks.
Shafts of light.

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Fri, 01 Oct 2010 17:41:00 -0700 Being Made Holy http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/10/being-made-holy.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/10/being-made-holy.html The new relationship between God and his people is that faith in Jesus bringing us into eternal life (John 14). Faith in Jesus perfects love, taking away all fear. God’s revelation is that faith in Jesus brings the free gift of his perfect life. Faith in Jesus means we get his perfect life, as on the cross he takes our sinful lives. We are reborn, recreated in the image of the Son, reformed, justified by the life Christ lived, and sanctified, made holy, by the work of the cross.

One of the key ideas in this new relationship is that we all start dead to God and our every motive is utterly evil. Every work is expressed out of rebellion to God. We do good things but because of our sinful hearts, our every action is evil. We choose to separate ourselves from God, condemning ourselves to eternal separation.
The way back to the Father is the work of the Holy Spirit who brings conviction of this sin and our response is to believe in the good news of salvation in Jesus. This is the only work we need do; believe in the Father who sent the Son that we may have eternal life in Christ. We have to have this faith in God, that the mercy of the cross is able to save us. It is God who chooses us and restores us to freedom. The Holy Spirit awakens us to Jesus, the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Our lives are bought back from futility and we who deserve eternal death gain eternal life. We are renewed in our minds and are freed by God’s grace to live our lives safe in the knowledge of God’s purpose. We are made holy in Christ and are perfected through Christ. We are no longer living in the inheritance of Adam but have the inheritance of Christ. We are adopted into God’s family by faith, through grace.
This present reality is worked out through our lives. We are no longer part of the system and have a direction at odds to it. Our purpose is to glorify God by pouring our lives out for him, magnifying his name and making known Christ and the Spirit so that others might be blessed.
We are a blessing to the world, witnesses for the work of the Spirit, proclaiming salvation. Christ goes before us and we are refined and purified by the sufferings of the world, not burned up.
We suffer with the world; we are found with the poor and the needy, we weep with the rejected and touch death, learning a freedom in God we will realise in death. We are not immune from suffering but pour ourselves out in it for others. This love will be consummated in creation on the last day when Christ returns to judge the living and the dead and finally God dwells eternally with his people.

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Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:24:00 -0700 How does the law on the Sabbath stand in the light of the cross? http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/08/how-does-law-on-sabbath-stand-in-light.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/08/how-does-law-on-sabbath-stand-in-light.html An answer to a comment left below

It is my opinion that the covenant with Abraham and the Covenant with Moses have been accomplished in Christ. What is greater has come and their purpose is fulfilled.

Ephesians 2:13;16
But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility.

The dividing wall here is the law, which divides Jew from Gentile.

Galatians 3:19 (English Standard Version)
Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary.


Jesus was the offspring, the promise was to Abraham and Moses was the intermediary. Here we learn something that is not in the Old Testament, that the law was given to Moses by angels. But God gave the first ten laws directly, they were written in stone by his finger and we know them as the moral law. Are they outside what Paul sees as being abolished?

Romans 7:5-6 (English Standard Version)
For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death. But now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive, so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.

Paul goes on to use one of the Ten Commandments on covetousness to justify his point. Paul teaches that we are free from the whole law, to the Jew the whole law was one; the division into moral and ceremonial and societal law is a later interpretation of scholars.

Paul takes his authority from the teaching of Jesus. Jesus is a greater authority than Moses. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. Jesus sets aside the religiosity of Israel so that he could affirm the truth of the Gospel; believe in Jesus and you will inherit eternal life (John 3:16).
But, does Jesus contradict himself?

Luke 10:25-28 (English Standard Version)
And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" He said to him, "What is written in the Law? How do you read it?" And he answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbour as yourself." And he said to him, "You have answered correctly; do this, and you will live."

These are the defining statements of the law taken from the law itself. Do they offer an alternative way of salvation? Only if, Jesus is not LORD. Jesus changes the entire interpretation of the law without changing a word as he himself is revealed to be the righteousness they point to. Jesus was angry with the way the Law was being used so that the salvation they promised was being missed, Matthew 23:4 (English Standard Version) They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. This is warning to us also who have the Gospel.

Clearly Jesus’ teaching would be disquieting for the orthodox Jews as he was setting aside their traditions, their answers to the requirements of the law, but this was because they did not see who he was; they did not recognise him as LORD. If they had they would have understood him to have the authority.

Jesus made it clear that nothing in the written code had changed or would change when he taught in Matthew 5:17-19 (English Standard Version)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”


The Law and the Prophets cannot be altered; their purpose is they are to be fulfilled. If our interpretation is good we fulfil them, if it is bad we abolish them making them worthless and leading people away from life. The Law will remain for a long time and will not alter in any way until it has been accomplished. If they had known the Father rightly they would have seen that Jesus was the fulfilment of the law. In him is the completion of the revelation; he is the pinnacle of God’s revelation of himself; he is the righteousness they promise. In Christ there is someone of greater authority than King David and Moses. The revelation of Christ is the final word.
In Christ the Law is fulfilled, not abolished but glorified. Christ is all righteousness; he is truth. In Christ his righteousness becomes our righteousness. The righteousness of Christ is beyond that of the Pharisees and even the least of those in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than John and all the Prophets (Matthew 11:11). Justification is not by the Law but faith in Jesus Christ. The Law now has no power to justify or curse and the great in the Kingdom of Heaven keep the Law and teach others to do so. In the Gospel Jesus shows his disciples how to handle the commandments, how to do them and teach them in the light of what Christ has accomplished on the cross. In Acts, the letters and Revelation we see how the Holy Spirit works out this Gospel.

The Covenant of Moses and the Covenant of Abraham are so important and are fulfilled in the cross which sets aside a Holy People; Paul says in 1 Corinthians 1:22-25 (English Standard Version)
For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

The sacrifices were the means by which the people could be forgiven and approach a Holy God and be holy; they sanctified the people. The food laws kept them pure, and the ceremonial laws ensured propriety in worship. The foolishness of the cross fulfilled all these and they are glorified in the Christ the only way to the Father in whom we can draw near to the Throne of Grace (Hebrews 4:14;6) and enter the Holy of Holies. All the requirements of the law are fulfilled in Christ, in fact the apostles would only advise practices to the Gentiles,

Acts 15:28-29 (English Standard Version)
“For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell."

The covenant with Moses is complete, as we are purified in Christ and the law is fulfilled. Is this not the meaning of the first miracle in the gospel of John when Jesus changes the water for purification into wine? Was Jesus pointing to the purification that was his blood remembered by the sharing of the cup when we come together. Circumcision as the mark of the covenant with Abraham is now ended as the seed, Jesus has come and the covenant is fulfilled. Paul says,

Galatians 5:2 (English Standard Version) Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.

So what of the Sabbath? The question has to be and can only be, how should it be practised and taught in the light of the revelation of Christ. How is the Sabbath to be taught in the light of Christ, his death and resurrection? How are we to interpret the law so that it is fulfilled?
Let us hear Jesus.

Mark 2:27 (English Standard Version) And he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.”

Matthew 12:12 (English Standard Version) “Of how much more value is a man than a sheep! So it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

Matthew 11:28-30 (English Standard Version) “Come to me, all who labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

The yoke is Jesus’ teachings and the burden is the requirements of his interpretation.

Matthew 12:6-8 (English Standard Version) “I tell you, something greater than the temple is here. And if you had known what this means, 'I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,' you would not have condemned the guiltless. For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath."

Remember Sabbath breaking was punishable by death.

John 5:16-17 (English Standard Version) And this was why the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because he was doing these things on the Sabbath. But Jesus answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I am working.”

Let us listen to the Spirit.

Hebrews 4:9-10 (English Standard Version) So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from his.

Acts 2:46-47 (English Standard Version) And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, praising God and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.

Romans 14:5-6 (English Standard Version) One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honour of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honour of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honour of the Lord and gives thanks to God.

These scriptures are the yoke and burden of Christ. They demonstrate how Christians are to approach the law and fulfil it.

Colossians 2:16-17 (English Standard Version) Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

There is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus so no one is discounted because of their practice of the law. We are called to a higher righteousness and we live in “the rest” of God every day. Making one day holy is a step backwards in my opinion. In Christ we have a new covenant that fulfils the law in a new way and we await the accomplishment of some of the prophecies. The sign of the New Covenant is the breaking of bread and more specifically the sharing of the cup. This we are to do whenever we feel it right and on any day. (Matt 26:27, Mark 11:24, Luke 22:19, 1 Corinthians 11:26)

Jesus’ teaching on the Sabbath is that it was created for man and that the Sabbath of the Ten Commandments was a day when good was to be done as any other day. Some would say that Jesus’ expectation was that it would continue to be observed as in Matthew 24:20 he prays that the destruction of the temple would not happen on a Sabbath. Of course Jesus was right, Sabbath observation would continue in Israel after Jesus’ death.

The teaching of Jesus then leaves us with the purpose in the Sabbath and the festivals; it is good for people to rest one day in seven. Christians do not keep Sabbaths as holy days as this would be part of the covenant of Moses; all days are holy. However it is good that men rest after 6 days of work. Isaiah 58 puts the breaking of the Sabbath as a sign of injustice. Isaiah speaks of the unjust fast that leaves the weak and the poor suffering and calls Israel to do justice in drawing near to God and concludes with a call to rededication to the Sabbath. In fact this is set in the context of the prophecy Isaiah brings of a new covenant, a covenant of peace which Jesus’ words in Matthew 11: 28-30 echo in calling us to be faithful to his teaching and application.

Isaiah 55:1
“Come, everyone who thirsts,
come to the waters;
and he who has no money,
come, buy and eat!
Come, buy wine and milk
without money and without price.

Indeed Jesus wants us and all mankind to benefit from this new covenant of peace.

Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2 and Revelation 10 attest to the fact that some Christians met regularly on the first day of the week, the Lord’s Day, but nowhere in the plain reading of scripture is this an ordinance to replace the Jewish Sabbath day for Christians. This was done because the first day was the day Jesus rose from the dead (Mark 16:9). People gathered to break bread and to remember as they did on any other day available, but it wasn’t until it became Roman law that they were able to observe it as a day of rest.

In my opinion, misguided church authorities formalised this practice in the 4th Century, which, in their reading of Church government, had to be imposed. It was the day Constantine had set aside from 7th March 321 for rest and for the worship of the sun god whose birthday by the way was 25th December, Dies Natalis Solis Invicti, "the birthday of the unconquered sun." which allowed the Romans to worship Elah-Gabal the Syrian god and Mithras. This is part of the story of the syncretism of the Roman Church which has given us Sunday as our day of rest and Christmas. The equivalent today would be for Christians to combine Diwali and Eid-Al-Adha into a Mid Winter Festival and have a three day weekend to accommodate Jewish, Christian and Moslem days of rest. I would consider this a mistake!

Making Sunday a day of worship is not biblically sanctioned. The church authorities would have done well to have read Galatians 4:10-11 and taken it to heart.

Galatians 4:10-11 (English Standard Version) You observe days and months and seasons and years! I am afraid I may have laboured over you in vain.

They did not and, as their decision is part of their tradition not the teaching of Jesus, I am not bound by it and because of Christ I am released from it.

It is good that Christians still are able to rest because of Roman Catholic tradition on a Sunday and worship together. When they interpret the law in this way I feel they are fulfilling the law. Families are able to be together and society is in order. It is a bad thing when people judge others who need to work on a Sunday. It is a sad thing when we lose perspective and start creating Sunday laws which I believe is poor interpretation and so abolishes the law of Jesus.

Sunday, or one day in seven, should be special in a secular sense because it enables society to function and is just. What people need to see is families being together and worshipping God, proclaiming his death and resurrection through the breaking of bread and sharing their lives and Jesus’ teaching on any or every day. Christianity should affect every day of the week; look what we create through our lack of diligence, Sunday Christians! However the issue of keeping Sunday special is an issue of Justice in the UK.

We should pray for our brothers and sisters who have no opportunity to rest one whole day in seven or ever some of whom ear he poorest in our midst, aliens doing the most menial tasks. We should not judge those only able to worship on a Friday in Moslem countries or a Saturday in Israel. But we should all meet as often as possible and as we are able.

Hebrews 10:24-25 (English Standard Version) And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

The observation of a personal Sabbath is essential to our wellbeing in Christ; it is good to carry around with us a sense of the Spirit working in us the benefits of Sabbath, and we should ensure that this is possible and the practicalities and disciplines that enable this are hedged around as vital. It is so important that we work from the knowledge of the Peace won for us in Christ Jesus. Take every opportunity afforded by a day of rest or time of solitude to find God in this way.

Phillipians 4: 4-7 (ESV) Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand; do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

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Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:39:00 -0700 The Only Way to the Father http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/08/only-way-to-father.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/08/only-way-to-father.html In the Trinity, the Son loves the Father and gives himself fully to the Father. This love is like a stream of living water poured out one to another. Love in God is perfected in the Son pouring his love out to the Father; the father begets the Son eternally and this love is eternally breathed out in the Spirit who pours his love into the Father and the Son, each emptying themselves for the other.
Truly the Son is revealed as the Lamb slain from the beginning, as in creation the way to the Father is through the Son and love is perfected in the Son pouring himself out for the Father.
The Son’s incarnation in time is the fulfilment of God’s purpose in creation, to dwell with his people. It will be completed in time on the last day. God’s love is glorified in this. The incarnation of Christ is the expression of the eternal love of the Son for the Father.
In creation, the work of the Spirit is to magnify God and awaken love for the Father through the Son. The suffering of the Lamb is at the heart of God in his self giving. It is the sin of Adam that reveals the Son as the Lamb that was slain from the beginning. It is the slaughtering of Jesus that glorifies the grace of God.
Adam sold humanity out to sin and enslaved our wills. The heart of God is to provide a way back for the sake of the Son, the express image of God. The crucifixion of Christ is the way back.
The love God has for his creation is expressed in self emptying and returned to God, in self emptying. The Word, the Son, became flesh and lived the perfect life we are called to live. His whole life was suffering; a perfect man in an imperfect world. He was rejected and put to death on a cross.
To kill someone is an act of complete rejection of that person. Jesus was counted nothing. To take life is the ultimate rejection of God. The sin we embrace sent Jesus to the cross. God’s grace is to reveal the horror of our disobedience. He chose to die. He suffered death who knew no sin. Our sin sent him to the cross.
We are told Jesus became sin who knew no sin and the wrath of God was poured out on him (2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus expressed through his life complete devotion to God; he was obedient to the Father and trusted him. As God, he showed the perfect relationship, that is the Trinity at work.
In becoming sin, Christ experienced the wrath of God; he was forsaken by the Father. He who was God took the wrath of God and became a curse. He poured himself out for us; he was the suffering servant, the perfect sacrifice. On the cross we see the Trinity glorified, bringing the punishment of sin upon the Son. The Father pours his wrath on the Son, made sin in the mystery of the cross, so that in the unity of the Person of God the sin of those found in Christ is consumed. I believe the fire of God’s grace through the mystery of the cross consumes all sin. , I believe, those found in their sin when they die, experience this consuming fire of God in hell. (Is. 11:1-10; Rom. 15:4-13; Matt. 3:1-12)
Life is not a test or an accident. In it Christ reveals himself, through suffering, as the way back to the Father. Jesus manifests the coming kingdom so that we might know the way to the Father.
The futility of creation is God’s grace to us, it throws us back on God who suffers with us, so that we might know eternal life (John 3:16). We are not worthy of this and yet God’s purpose is to dwell in perfect harmony with his people, to pour out God’s love on the world Jesus makes us worthy even when we deserve only death because of our rebellion.

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Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:21:00 -0700 Our History http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/08/our-history.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/08/our-history.html Adam had dominion over creation and we, as his heirs, do so also. We are given the breath of life and bear the Image of God. No angel bears this image and no angel has the breath of life. We share our breath with the all life and we share the command to be fruitful and multiply.
Freedom is spoken into creation, the seas are to swarm, the soil is to produce and man is to obey. God’s providence is that he works his infinite creativity into forming history. He is sovereign, as each moment is his making and, in its completeness, each act is good.
Adam, the man commanded to obey, disobeys. He loses his freewill and his dominion falls from goodness. Creation now groans under its subjection to sin. God creates all things good but the whole of creation is subject to futility and suffering through the disobedience of Adam (Romans 8:20). The purpose of this is that God’s grace is glorified.
Angels were created heavenly beings. They were to work God’s will in the creation, to serve it and form it. Satan, an evil angel, tested Adam through Eve and because Adam listened to Satan, Adam sinned; he did not trust God or obey him and creation descended into futility for his sake.
Creation was subject to futility for the sake of Adam. Adam was cast out of the garden so that he might know salvation. Experiencing the futility of sin, Adam is able to repent and choose to follow God. This now is creation’s purpose; its purpose becomes that God will dwell in the midst of his people eternally as they are saved to life in Christ from the consequences of sin in Adam which is death. Creation’s fallen purpose is to reveal the wrath of God against sin.
Through Adam and for Adam’ sake creation is subject to the futility of sin and death. Adam turned from the Word of God and acted on the deception of Satan. For freedom God created Adam; to do evil is not a free act. Satan is bound to act contrary to God’s will because of his selfish rebellion; he is enslaved by his own rebelliousness.
God is compassion and God is a consuming fire. He is a jealous God. He is holy and knows no evil and so Adam is thrown from God’s presence so that grace might bring him back. Adam, in his sin, is dead to God, separate from his mercy, subject to judgement; he can only bring glory to God in his death.
Only faith in the God of mercy can save him. God gave life, he will not take this gift back and he will secure a way back (2 Samuel 14:14). We see God’s faithfulness to his gift of life throughout the scriptures, for example in the cities of refuge (Numbers 35:15) and Jesus parables we see God’s heart for the lost.
God is a compassionate God and a consuming fire. His judgement is to refine and purify; his wrath is against sinful creation and Adam, because his purpose is that he will dwell with his people in his creation and they will be free. His love cannot leave Adam eternally separated from him, his holiness cannot allow Adam in his sin into his presence. Creation as we observe it is under God’s curse, justly subject to futility and ruled by death. We are separate from God because of our sin and only his righteousness can save us.
We are all bound to an eternity separate from God and a short life on this earth subject to futility because of sin. God’s purpose is to dwell on the earth with his people and his holy fire will consume all that is not holy to fulfil this purpose of creation (Matthew 3:11-12).
Love flows without measure in God and this love flows to creation perfecting as it flows; sin breaks this flow. Sin directs love to self. God pours wrath on the sinner. The merciful God who gives life provides a way for love to flow once more. (Romans 5)

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The act of creation was an entirely free act of God. True freedom is to do the will of God because only God is good and true freedom is to do good.
Any act of will that is not in the will of God is sin. It is God’s will that we live faithful to him and only know good; to act without such faith is disobedience and sin. We are to trust God. God’s utter perfection elicits perfect obedience and perfect trust; the Father calls us to be holy as God is holy. This is the framework of free will; our wills are not free when we choose to sin.
Sin is seated in our hearts and is pride, choosing not to be ruled by love but by selfishness is slavery to sin. Sin is self centred. Sin binds us to our needs and selfish drives; we are not free.
Creation is a perfect act of God. His infinite creativity works to provide for our every choice; no word we speak, is not known by God before we think and say it. No choice God creates is evil as all God does is good. A choice made in disobedience to God is evil and works its evil into creation. The disposition of our hearts conceives evil. From our hearts comes all manner of evil.
God’s goodness is ultimate, fulfilled in heaven or in hell (Romans 8:28, Ephesians 1). God is just and each of his acts in its fullness is good. An evil act is justly punished by death and separation from God’s grace. Hell brings glory to God’s grace and his goodness.

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Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:38:00 -0700 Creation http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/08/creation.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/08/creation.html In the creation, people are given God’s image. All humanity was to rest with God, God is to dwell with his people; the Word, the Son, would become flesh.
The Son, the eternal expression of the Father’s love, perfects love in taking on flesh. God takes the form of a servant within creation and glorifies his nature. God limits his nature to become a man, from conception, to baby to mature manhood; God, the LORD, had a mother.
The purpose of creation is that God is glorified in all his being and that he may dwell eternally with people in a relationship of love. Our purpose, our delight, is to worship and glorify him for ever; to love him eternally.
Man was given dominion over the creation under God; Adam was given free will to obey God and participate in the eternal love of God. This is revealed in Christ who states that for those restored to this original purpose, the love of God for his people is the same love as that of the Father for the Son (John 17:23).
God’s act of creation is an act of meekness on the part of the all powerful God; God humbles himself so that his love might be glorified. Self giving love, the ultimate expression of love, is poured out of the Trinity into the otherness of a good creation.

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Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:55:00 -0700 Clacton http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/06/clacton.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/06/clacton.html The sun rises higher;
the heat haze shimmers.
Polaroid clarity;
Sun sharp unreality.
Beached crowds;
panoramic humanity.
Paddlers and swimmers.

Big.
Small.
Loosers and winners.
Young.
Old.
Saints and sinners.

Beer bellies creased with winter’s white,
Slow cooking prawns, dangerously dozing,
Battered bodies gently browning.
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Svelte young things play to win
A beach baked whale with a baleen grin,
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Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:37:00 -0700 Eternal Love http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/06/eternal-love.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/06/eternal-love.html When God created the universe, he acted to glorify himself; from nothing he created everything, limiting his nature to be within time and space. Time and space express the glory of an infinite Triune God who pours himself out, empties himself within the persons of his being and into creation to express his glory without compulsion or necessity.

The greatest expression of love is self giving and God is perfect in love (John 15:13). Our God I believe, in creating, spoke self-giving into creation, pouring himself out, so that, from the beginning, creation speaks of his self empting love.

Christ, God the Son, poured out for humanity, is anticipated in creation’s beginning and its end. God’s infinite creativity is expressed in the person of the ever begotten Son, born of the Father yet not made; Father and Son pour their love out to one another in the Spirit. All receive love from one another in eternal, ever-new expressions of creative love. From our bountiful Triune relational God, comes the creation into which the Lord of the Fountains pours out his love.

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Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:48:00 -0800 Women's roles in the church revisited http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/01/womens-roles-in-church-revisited.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/01/womens-roles-in-church-revisited.html In the church are there certain roles reserved for men?

Our evidence has to be from scripture. We will need to look at the created order in scripture and examine the scriptures that imply there are roles in the church reserved for men.

My position is that of an evangelical Christian who is skeptical of the evidence from the scriptures that there are gender reserved gifts, but believes that the elders of a church are free within the bounds of scripture to make decisions about propriety in worship and teaching. My inclination is to believe that such an office of leadership is male.

The created order is described in Genesis. Genesis 1:26-27 shows that in the creation of mankind, there is absolute equality; “Let us make Man in our own image…male and female he created them”. In the second story of creation we learn that the first man Adam was formed first to work the land; God then formed the animals which Adam named. There was no helper among them for Adam so while he slept, a rib was taken from him and formed in to a woman, a wife for Adam. Adam said of the woman in Genesis 2:23,

"This at last is bone of my bonesand flesh of my flesh;she shall be called Woman,because she was taken out of Man."

Into this story we can read much. The man takes as his personal name the name assigned by God for humanity. Adam the first man could not have filled the Earth without the woman. The woman was his helper and formed from his rib, close to his heart. Adam and the woman were created equal before God but the woman was taken from the man. In Gen 2:24 we learn that ever after the order is that man is taken from woman, that is given birth to by a woman. Man must detach himself or leave his mother and father and hold fast to his wife or cleave to his wife when they become one. In this way the creation order is preserved. Also it is Adam who names the Woman not God showing his authority.

The fall was caused by Eve’s deception by the serpent, but Adam took the blame for sin as God held him responsible. Adam watched as Eve was deceived. Their eyes were opened not when Eve ate the fruit but when Adam ate the fruit they felt shame. As a result God would act in the lives of Adam and his wife so that child bearing would be painful, as Cain and Abel proved to be, and Adam’s work would be toil. Adam is punished because he listened to the woman rather than God. God said that the husband would seek to dominate his wife and the wife would either devote herself to her husband or, as some read it, seek to control him. However this is read it is not good.

The breakdown of Adam and Eve’s relationship leads to a situation in the world where men carry their domineering beyond their wives, women becoming objects of pleasure, even for angels, and bring down kings. It’s a sorry mess, utterly futile and meaningless. Men and women sometimes triumph but more often than not fail.

Jesus restores meaning and hope in many ways. He cuts through the legalism of the scribes and Pharisees including gender expectations. He offends the accepted cultural norms in the way he accepts women. However he does not choose women as his apostles. Matt 10:24 confirms this. If this is significant it is because in his life, death and resurrection women are involved and prominent. The disciples were chosen to go out in pairs to heal, deliver from demons and preach. They were to rely on the people who heard the message and responded. Practically speaking, at that time it could be said; only men could have done this. But still Jesus did not choose a woman to be one of the apostles, one of the twelve who were close to him, he chose Simon first, and renamed him Peter showing his authority to do this. Jesus did not change the creation order, he came to restore it and so women are seen as helpers and men as leaders, the women regaining their creation status.

After the resurrection, at Pentecost the Church was born. What Jesus instigated bore fruit. The apostles taught and signs and wonders attended their words. Peter spoke for the church and men were sent out by the Church to spread the good news. In the church men and women were active and gifted and male Elders and leaders were appointed as necessary.

What is significant to me is how the gospels, written then, recorded Jesus life and included the details about Jesus relationship with women. Paul for example recounts the resurrection without mentioning the women involved in 1 Corinthians 15:5 which is what would have been culturally normal. Jesus relationship to women must have had an impact and it was obviously important to those who knew Jesus because their role was faithfully recorded. Jesus’ relationships with women must have been very empowering to women in the church and the facts recorded testify that the story of Jesus is not complete without them. However, only men were appointed as Elders.

In Galatians 3:28-29 Paul writes of the new order in Christ as; “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” It was nearly 1700 years before this truth in Christ was realised for slaves in society. In fact the scriptures actually direct slaves on how to be good slaves and masters likewise. But it was never not true that they were one in Christ Jesus. In Christ there is no distinction. In most of the world, especially where Christianity has no heritage the lot of women is appalling. How many more years must we wait for women to attain to the promise of scripture worldwide? We must acknowledge that there is latent bigotry in our society still and some of it exists in the name of the church. In Jesus the creation order is properly restored.

Jesus’ legacy to the early church did cause problems and had to be worked out practically in a society where it cut right across what was acceptable. Paul taught hard about there being no distinction between Jew and Gentile. Before the destruction of the temple the issue was circumcision and after the dispersion, whether Christians also needed to be Jews. We learn of this through Acts and the letters. The problems they addressed speak to us of the struggles of the early church.

What is first noticed is the liberty there seems to be. Peter and Paul often have to contend with the church. It appears that the practice was to preach and live the life with those they were reaching. There do not appear to be many regulations and the Holy Spirit was relied upon to work amongst the Elders and leaders of each church dealing with the culture as they found it.
Looking at problems to do with gender there does appear to be an underlying problem and a clear response. How we respond to this approach is what causes the church to fall in to two camps today. For one leadership is male and the other leadership can be female. Both camps look at the scriptural evidence and come up with different answers. The latter interprets scripture taking into account the culture of the time and seeks to find the message which may be obscured by the cultural bias.

Those who believe leadership to be male do not disregard the cultural bias but see the principle of male leadership to be an unswerving teaching of the scriptures. In Ephesians 5 we are enjoined to submit to one another. In marriage, Ephesians 5:22;23 teaches,

“Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Saviour. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.
“Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church …For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, because we are members of his body. "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." This mystery is profound, and I am saying that it refers to Christ and the church. However, let each one of you love his wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.”

In this and in subsequent matters of gender Paul refers back to Genesis as the standard. This is the pattern of his teaching; he looks at the creation order. Is the order in marriage also the order between men and women in the church? The role that is usually reserved for men in churches is to lead and to take primacy in teaching. Men are given responsibility as Elders. Some people in support of male only leadership would say that it could be argued from nature that men should lead. If this was the case then Timothy would be discounted and most of God’s choices in the Old Testament would be wrong. One of God’s judges for Israel was Deborah, God made a habit of not choosing the natural heir and Nehemiah was a eunuch. Our only evidence must be scripture. In the marriage, the wife certainly does complement the husband and though, as individuals, they are equal before God, in their marriage the husband has leadership. Should this complementarity be mirrored in male and female relationships in the church?

If the evidence we set out above is accepted, it is clear that in creation the man was first and in Jesus’ choice of his apostles only men were included, with women having an elevated status amongst the disciples compared to their accepted roles in Judaism. It could be argued that God wrote Genesis for a patriarchal period and that Jesus was choosing men in a time when women could not have fulfilled the role of an Apostle or Elder. Scripture does not allow us to think like this as the creation order was said by God to be very good and Jesus said he did not come to change this but to fulfil it.

Paul’s letters to the Corinthians and Timothy suggest that in the church there are roles set aside for men which have cultural contexts but strikingly they throw light on the freedoms women enjoyed in the church. The society of the time would have emphasised the differences between men and women in their religions. It was the freedoms that women enjoyed in Christian worship that caused problems. These were among many problems that Paul dictated answers to in his letters. Of the problems two related to gender; head coverings and keeping women in order during worship.

The head coverings answer is pertinent to our question about limiting women to certain roles in the church though it appears to be about worship. The passage is 1 Corinthians 11:2;16, the first part in a discourse on orderly worship. The problem was that in Jewish worship the men had to wear head coverings; should Christian men wear head coverings? Paul begins by commending them for maintaining the traditions he had passed on to them though men wearing head coverings was not one of them. Paul then appears to play with the word head using it in terms of authority and of the physical head. Firstly he clarifies relationships of authority, each person under God, each wife’s authority is through her husband and Christ’s authority is God.

Paul says, “the head of every man is Christ,” but this must be inclusive of women and children as otherwise it has no other authority in scripture. The next part needs to be taken in the context of the whole passage, Gentiles are not bound by Jewish traditions, it dishonours the authority they have in Christ and so a man praying or prophesying with his head covered dishonours Christ, just as a wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her husband. Both these a cultural requirements and the latter the Corinthian tradition not the Jewish tradition. It would not be helpful to the gospel to offend local propriety, another theme of Paul’s. It would be like playing western Kids’ Club games involving wasting food in a country where overindulgence is frowned upon.

I think Paul is saying, “Men, you know how offended you would be if your wife spoke in the church with her head uncovered; she would appear to the locals to be a whore! Well the same goes for you and Christ, it would offend against him if you wore head coverings.”
In verse 7 he says, “For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.” and so the difference in the rule. One is because the men would be upholding a jewish tradition they were freed from and the women because they would be breaking a local tradition which would bring the church into disrepute. Now Paul cannot here imply that women are not the glory of God because that would contradict Genesis 1:26 and in the following verses; “For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.” I think is saying, “Guys your wife is your glory; in the beginning the woman was made from the man, the woman was made for the man and it is right and fitting that she should have honour in the assembly otherwise people coming into your meetings are going to think foul things of her and bring a bad report of the Church. And it's your responsibility."

And then in verses 11;12 comes, “Nevertheless, in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor man of woman; for as woman was made from man, so man is now born of woman. And all things are from God.” In Chapter 10 he has had to press home the theme that giving up a freedom to bring God glory, does not undermine the truth and despite everything he has just said this is the truth, men and women are equal before God. And then he throws it back into their court, “Judge for yourselves;” men should be men and women should be women, equal before God, but this freedom should not allow women to be disgraced, or insist on doing something that will bring disgrace, and that is the rule in the church.

And today this is still true; men can have long hair, some women have very short hair and women do not cover their heads as a mark of authority but they do take their husband’s name and wear a wedding band and so no one is disgraced, even though this is a pagan tradition. I have some personal experience of this. I was part of a church where no one wore jewelry, not even a wedding band as wedding bands were not scriptural. It became clear to me that when we went to stay at a hotel and I signed a cheque which showed I had a wife but the woman I was with had no band they thought I was being unfaithful. I was very upset for my wife and the disgrace it implied.

Paul is directing women in how they should conduct themselves in the church in Corinth.
Does Paul then contradict himself? He has given us a rule for the Corinthians about how a women is to conduct herself in the church when praying and prophesying and then In 1 Corinthians 14: 33-35 he writes,

“For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints, the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.”

The whole section has been about decency and order and it has to be right that Paul has not changed his mind half way through the letter about women speaking. Corinth was the byword for excess and sexual licence. We are talking about disorder here and something that is quite close to the Corinthian’s hearts, “Or was it from you that the word of God came? Or are you the only ones it has reached? …But all things should be done decently and in order.” It can only be assumed that Paul is talking about something that is not prophecy or prayer which disrupts the meeting and Paul says it is not allowed anywhere! In the context this scripture appears Paul is talking about those in authority in the church judging what has been brought prophetically. This is a function of leadership; Paul is warning that in the church it is wrong for women to take the authority of the men in bringing order to the meeting. He is not saying they are not to judge prophecy as that would be wrong but he is reaffirming the role of the men in taking leadership in the meeting.The next scripture will help us understand this better.

The next piece of scriptural evidence comes from Ephesus where Timothy taught. Ephesus was one of John’s seven churches in Revelation. Both the Corinthian and Ephesians Churches were largely gentile churches. The letters to Timothy were written towards the end of Paul’s life. There were problems in Ephesus and Timothy had been left by Paul to sort them out. Paul strengthened him with strong teaching.

The problems Timothy faced can be gauged from the text. 1 Timothy 1:7; says people were, “desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.” and of young widows (1 Timothy 5:13-15), “…they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not. So I would have younger widows marry, bear children, manage their households, and give the adversary no occasion for slander. For some have already strayed after Satan.”

2 Timothy 3:6-7 gives us the chilling picture of the people, “..among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth.” This tells us that false teachers were particularly targeting women. In John’s Revelation tells us that in the church of Thyatera in this region (Revelation 2:2), “...you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols.” Notice John does not condemn her for teaching, but the content of her message. These teachings (1 Timothy 1:4) cause them “…to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith.” The false teachers are effectively targeting the women. 2 Peter 2:14 says, “They have eyes full of adultery, insatiable for sin. They entice unsteady souls. They have hearts trained in greed. Accursed children!”

And so in this context Paul addresses the problem, writing to Timothy to strengthen him. The text we need to look at is 1 Timothy 2:8-15.

“I desire then that in every place the men should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarrelling;” Men in this context is male as Paul wants to add, “likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, but with what is proper for women who profess godliness: with good works.”

Profess here is not in the sense of professing faith but is a political term meaning carrying the idea, in order to gain support a theme we see that was so important to Paul in Corinthians. Paul wants men and women to be doers of the word not just speakers of the word which ties in very closely with the problems detailed about idle chatter.

Paul has already carefully prepared his listeners for the next part. He has said in 1 Timothy 1:8 that the law is for the lawbreakers and now he lays down the law,

“Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”

Paul speaks with authority, definitely not allowing a woman to teach or to usurp the authority of men; this is couched in the language of a legal injunction. Quiet is better understood here as "not in a spirit of contentiousness" and "exercise authority" caries the sense of grasping authority which refers to the Genesis curse. A woman is directed to learn without contention in full submission to the men who have responsibility and authority in the church.

The injunction is clear but is it only because of lawlessness or is it an universal decree? Certainly there was lawlessness and tough leadership was needed. Paul continues o reference Genesis to answer this question,

“For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing; if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.”

What is Paul trying to say? It cannot be allowed that as a result of Eve’s transgression that the fallen state of woman is to be deceived or that childless women are not part of the church. In Genesis 3:17 we learn, Eve persuaded Adam to sin; God begins his cursing Adam,

"Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, 'You shall not eat of it,'…”

It was the persuasiveness of Eve, “the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes,” which led to Adam’s downfall and a man in authority should be aware of the cleverness of Satan and pride of the eye.
The curse in Gen 3:16 is

“To the woman he said, ‘I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.’”

But now childbirth has brought Christ into the world says Paul. In Christ the curse is broken as we are given a new nature and against the faithful and loving, holy and self controlled there is no law. It appears that Paul is saying, the deception of Eve brought the curse but remember, in Christ she is restored which could suggest that what Paul has said is an injunction on a women who is usurping authority. She is manifesting the old nature but if she shows the fruits of the new nature there is no law against her. She will be properly submissive in her contributions in the church.

In summary, if it is accepted that all gifting in the church is God’s sovereign choice then we can see that nowhere in the church are God's gifts and the exercising of them limited to men. Some will aspire to leadership, which is an office in the church, and Paul encourages this, as he does people to aspire to the higher gifts. It can not be argued that part of God’s economy is to limit the gifts by gender. But leadership, is I believe limited because of the goodness of the creation order to men. This God given order is given in the context of a marriage partnership and restated in the New Testament, but I do not feel it is proven that this is a universal injunction in all male and female relationships and that the God given leadership role of the husband extends to all male female relationships in the church or society. But does it extend to the church meeting and organisation. I believe this is what Paul is talking about.

I believe Paul illustrates Godly authority and how Elders are free to exercise discretion so that there is order and propriety in the worship. Any man is a twit if he does not listen to the wisdom of a woman because of some supposed licence for everyman to lord it over women in the church. Any man who believes this is acting under the curse which we have been freed from in Christ.
In a world where women are abused and denied freedoms; mercilessly exploited by men by laws and customs, the church should be a bastion of proper equality. In this world Paul’s words need to be understood and heeded; men need to be men and women need to be women and all should be modest. There should be a creational understanding of relationships in the church which underpins Paul’s teaching, for example in Ephesians 5: 21, “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.”, where each individual submits to the scripture and to God ordained roles in the church and family.

In conclusion, our society is degraded and permissive and marriage and authority are under attack. Elders need to have confidence to exercise authority against all systems that would usurp authority. We need strong leadership that professes Godliness as detailed in 1 Timothy 3. Except where propriety and order are an issue, gender should not matter with regard to gifts of the Spirit. In my analysis, which I believe to be scriptural, leadership in this is male within the context of the eldership of a church. This is a creational value I believe is carried into the new creation.

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:21:00 -0800 I'm not well. http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/01/im-not-well.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/01/im-not-well.html I’m not too well. I have had CLL for a number of years which is a chronic blood cancer. In most cases people would not need treatment but unfortunately in my case, over the summer my white blood count started to rise and my lymph nodes were showing signs of stress. After a CT scan it was decided to give me a 6 month course of Chemotherapy. Within a week of the news I was signed off work and started the course.
The response from the school and the church has been overwhelming. We are really being looked after and God has been very good to us. As can be imagined I am having to do a lot of life processing and am not finding this easy.
The first month from my point of view was a nightmare but from the doctors’ point of view was a resounding success. I responded remarkably well to the treatment, so well they had to admit me into hospital where I was in an isolation ward for a week. The doctors’ enthusiasm was not contagious. However they have halved the dose of one of the drugs as a result. I am very lucky in one sense as the treatment I am undergoing has only recently been licensed for CLL. It involves me being infused with Anti Bodies for a day which latch onto and destroy weakened cells then for five days I take tablets which are the Chemo tablets. They weaken the cells. I will probably need to do this five times and by the end of December will be starting my third cycle.
Where is God in all of this? Well in the first place I am having to review my life when I jolly well ought to have been anyway and was a fool not to. And then he has opened my eyes to the remarkable love people have for me and my family which is overwhelming; I don’t think I had realised what incredible privilege it is to be to be amongst people who really genuinely and self sacrificially care about you.
Another thing that has happened is that I have seen other people’s suffering close up and personal which is always salutary especially when you see the dedication and the hard work of those whose job it is to care.
Finally I’ve learned that God expresses his love in ways we don’t expect.
To be honest I have been a mental wreck but found that I had been prepared for the things that would scare me the most. For most of my life I have had the conviction that I had a blood disease as child and that I was alright because of injections I had in my stomach. Three years ago I asked my parents about this as I thought it might give me clues about my CLL. They said no such thing had ever happened.
I was quite confused as I had actually filled in forms stating that I had had a blood disease in my childhood, believing it to be a fact. Guess what? When I was in hospital, to stimulate my immune system which had gone to nearly zero they injected hormones into my stomach tissue.
Following on the second cycle I basically had had two days before the treatment began when I was not well and felt that I was going into another month of hell. When I got to the hospital I was in a state of fear. As I sat in the chair I’m afraid to say I broke down. I was taken into a side room for reassurance.
For the first time the medical staff talked to me from my end of things. It was a very broken time. Whilst the nurse went to make me a cup of tea a text came in to my phone. Susan from Cambridge texted to ask what was wrong. She had set to praying and had felt a deep sense of sorrow as she thought of me, so much so that she could not stop crying. But there was no fear.
This was so encouraging because as far as I was concerned at that moment God was on holiday. She then sent me some amazing Psalm’s to read which I did and which I also had on my iPod to listen to. Again I was overwhelmed but with peace and joy. The amazing thing was all the sense of sickness and fear evaporated and I was able to continue with the treatment.
I suppose for me this was a huge encouragement and testimony to a God who is alive and tracking even in our darkest moments. It also revealed his character; Susan had stopped her very busy and stressful schedule, preparing for Carin’s annual heart review to pour herself out for me. This is love.
Everywhere we look in creation we see suffering and evil, most of which is caused by us and I believe all of which is our fault, but if we scratch the surface we find overwhelming selflessness and goodness in its very fabric waiting to be restored. One of the things I realised is the greatest suffering I cause is my indifference to others and the cheap words I speak. I sometimes wonder if on a daily basis this hurt outweighs the very obvious suffering there is in the world.
Any questions? Try Alpha. I was only able to do three sessions this year before I was whisked away, but I can recommend it as a good place to start and never a waste of time. I can’t see how you can get on with life and enjoy it based on a probably. Do you know, some people believe that as a result of the Humanist Society’s bus campaign the number of people attending Alpha increased? One leading Christian think tank actually helped fund it as they felt it had such a positive effect on Church attendance!
Ok, this year might not be going to be that great, and we never know what might be round the corner, but hang on to the good things, add them up and see how blessed you are, then with the joy gained, make the world a better place for others and restore the gleam to creation.
Love Emlyn

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Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:21:00 -0800 Inside out http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/01/inside-out.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/01/inside-out.html In Christ we find Jesus gives us a peace beyond the world’s understanding. Worship of God comes from here; it is an inside out experience, like a river flowing from its source. This peace is a deposit, a sign of the presence of God, the fountain of living water.

The presence of God was signified in the creation by God resting on the seventh day with man.. God’s agreement to abide with Israel was signalled by their keeping of the seventh day as holy, a day of rest. God’s heart is to dwell with man in peace.

Paul’s favourite salutation is, “Grace and peace.” Grace brings peace and peace is a sign of God’s grace in our lives. Peace is a heart response given to us as a sign of God’s presence. When we know peace, we know Christ is present, we are lead into truth that sets us free and we know the love of the Father.

All our effort is directed towards the love of the Father who dwells with Jesus in our hearts. It is this presence of God that brings us life and joy everlasting. We draw living water from this well and we pour out our worship. We cannot work up worship; our worship comes from a heart abiding in God. We are called by Jesus to worship in Spirit and Truth and worship that is not grounded in the love of the Father and the Peace of Christ is not true worship. It is an emotional fabrication; lifeless, stagnant.

Group worship began in the time of Seth. In the time of Seth people began to call on the name of the LORD. This is where the story began and lessons can be learned from what God tells us about Seth. Seth was the third son of Eve, given by God after his brother Abel had been killed by the eldest Son, Cain.

The story of Cain and Abel is one of deepening sin in the world. Cain brought an offering to God of the fruits of the soil and Abel of the fat of the first born of his flocks. Both offerings were righteous and of equal value, later ordained by God in the Law of Moses as an offering of consecration and a peace offering. God ignored Cain’s offering.

The reason why God ignored Cain’s offering soon becomes apparent. Cain is very angry and his face falls. We might have some sympathy for Cain at this point and view God as being unfair, nasty and capricious. But then God says to Cain, “If you do well, will you not be accepted?” or, “will there not be a lifting up of your face?”

What is Cain to do well? He is to resist sin and God will accept him and lift up his head. God’s regard of Abel’s offering and disregard of Cain’s offering revealed Cain’s need. God offered Cain acceptance, rest from his anger and a way out from the ravaging sin that crouched like a wild animal waiting to dwell in him. God commands Cain to rule over sin so as not to allow it to rule over him. God does not over-rule Cain’s choice only promises him peace through his obedience. God’s regard for Abel’s offering was Cain’s offer of salvation.

Abel is killed by Cain. Cain is banished, Seth is born, the offspring of Eve from which the Saviour would come, and people start to Worship the LORD together.

Our hearts are so important to God. The sacrifice of praise we offer God is acceptable to God only because of Jesus. Sin crouches at the door of our hearts. We are commanded to come to Christ, to believe in Him and abide in Him. We are to love one another. Cain did not love Abel and so did not love God and know His acceptance. He shows no remorse at the murder of righteous Abel, only at the severity of his punishment. It is Abel’s righteousness that makes his offering sweet; his heart is right and he knows peace with God; he knows acceptance. The cross brings our acceptance and we are made righteous by the sacrifice, death and resurrection of Christ.

Our worship together can know no other fount; its from the inside out. Our offering of praise comes from coming in confidence to God, secure in the knowledge that we have come to Christ, believe in Him, are abiding in his love and obeying his word. Our worship comes from the foot of the cross; Christ is our offering. This peace with God is our assurance of Grace and is freely given. As we come into the light of God’s presence and draw water form his wells of salvation, feeding on him, the bread of life, we express heartfelt worship to Him. We worship in Spirit and in Truth, not as hypocrites working up a mask, but as worshippers abiding in God’s presence.

God loves to dwell with man and he gave his Son as a sacrifice for sin so that we might dwell with Him eternally. Keep yourself from idols.

John 3:21 (ESV) But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”

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Fri, 01 Jan 2010 11:37:00 -0800 Seven Pounds http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/01/seven-pounds.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2010/01/seven-pounds.html The film Seven Pounds staring Will Smith claims to be a story of redemption. I believe the title to be a reference to Shakespeare’s merchant of Venice and the pound of flesh demanded of Antonio by Shylock as a repayment on his failure to fulfil a loan; Antonio's flesh redeems Shylock's loan.

Will Smith plays Ben Thomas. At the start of the film we encounter Ben about to commit suicide and the film tells the story up to and beyond this point.

Seven people including his fiancé have died because of his foolishness. Ben atones for the death of these seven people, literally with his own flesh and ultimately his life. In the end he gives life by giving his own life. His gift is given from his own self loathing; his life is "less than unremarkable".

The film is poetic, sensitively constructed and delivers its story but I believe lacks a credible moral core leaving us with a confused idea of redemption. He does not redeem his conscience but annihilates it.

The message in the film is that the recipients of the pounds of flesh have to be good or worthy and discovering this is the drive of the film. Ben tests the goodness of the recipients of his pound of flesh. We are lead in to a feeling of the worthiness of Ben’s cause because of the goodness of the recipients of the seven pounds of Ben’s flesh. We feel good because the unworthy are discovered and only the good are saved.

This is so far from the redemption offered by Christ. The redemption offered by Christ is offered precisely because we are unworthy.

Romans 5:8 (ESV) but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

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Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:31:00 -0700 Out of nothing God created everything http://youlot.posterous.com/2009/10/out-of-nothing-god-created-everything.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2009/10/out-of-nothing-god-created-everything.html Introduction
Out of nothing God created everything; God who is completely separate from creation, space and time, transcendent, became immanent in creation, creating and entering into space and time.


From the beginning God is transcendent and in creating he becomes immanent. God speaks, the Spirit hovers over the void at the beginning and He walks in the garden on its completion, revealing to us, in the light of the Gospel, God as Trinity; three Persons, One God. This is an essential mystery of God and a foundation of our understanding of God as he has revealed himself in the scriptures and through nature.


God is immanent and God is transcendent, One God in being, majesty and power. To our minds there appears a discontinuity in how we need to understand God, to make sense of our experience of God, who God is to us and how he responds to us, and God’s transcendent being. And yet there is One God undivided, continuous in all his attributes.


The concept of continuity and discontinuity is one I want to explore, how it helps us understand the involvement of a transcendent God in creation, how it works its way out in creation and in our lives and how it helps us understand scripture and engage with science.


The initial spur for writing is, having read Robert John Russell’s paper, Reflections on Eschatology and Scientific Cosmology: from Conflict to Interaction. I found myself excited by the opening out of the idea, from a physicists point of view, that the fact of Jesus’ return might have an observable impact on creation and how it works.
(http://www.ctinquiry.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_John_Russell ).


At the end of his reflections Russell says, “…nature might have a “multiple temporality” with the eschatological “future” woven into and between the ordinary “future””. Eschatology is the study of end times and temporality refers to the passage of time. He describes the return of Christ as being “proleptically present”, meaning anticipated as if already present.


So he is saying that not only is the physical process involved in the end times anticipated in the physical facts of Jesus resurrection but also in the whole of the history of life. He is seeking to explore if the physical nature of the new creation is anticipated in its existing structure and what laws will continue to operate in the new creation.


What struck me was the repeating of an idea I first heard from my son that: wouldn’t every involvement of a transcendent God in creation resound throughout every moment in time and be woven into its fabric, so that just as the salvation offered by the cross is effective throughout time, would this not also be true of the judgement of Adam and as Russell also suggests, the return of Jesus.


Russell spends some time discussing the idea of the continuity and discontinuity of Christ in his Kenosis, his self limiting and emptying of himself in the incarnation, so that he is fully man and fully God and the same person in heaven as he was on Earth yet different in form. The Word becomes flesh without division in substance.


He argues that the continuity and discontinuity in the physical body of Christ at his resurrection gives us a basis for considering the continuities and discontinuities at the renewal of creation when Christ returns. The old is rolled up in the new in the same way as the incarnate Christ is the eternal Word and the risen Christ; one in the same person, but different within an immutable Godhead. Philippians 2:5-7 .


He is also suggesting that just as Christ took upon himself the sins of the world, the new creation will redeem nature from the evil in this present creation. This can be supported in scripture which describes creation as groaning in anticipation of Christ’s return. Romans 8:18-25 (ESV)
Russell states of the end times
...the bodily resurrection of Jesus directs us towards a much more fundamental view: the radical transformation of the background conditions of space, time, matter and causality, and with this, a permanent change in at least most of the present laws of nature.

For Russell, the resurrection is not a myth but the Fall from grace of man and the creation is. He does not look for a radical transformation at the Fall.


For Russell his position is that nature is evil and predisposed to sin as is evidenced in the wasteful and destructive processes of evolution and cosmology and so he rejects the Fall as an event. He sees it as a property of creation.


I think he is wrong, and would extend his concept of an eschatological discontinuity to include a discontinuity at the Fall which I believe is as radical an event within creation as the return of Christ.


Continuity and discontinuity
The idea of discontinuity and continuity in created life can be traced to Aristotle who in De Anima II 3 states “… that plants possess a vegetative soul, responsible for reproduction and growth, animals a vegetative and a sensitive soul, responsible for mobility and sensation, and humans a vegetative, a sensitive, and a rational soul, capable of thought and reflection.” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle#cite_note-30)

The idea is that although there is continuity in the created order, in creation there are discontinuities. These ideas lead to the scientific discipline of Taxonomy, challenged by modern genetics which emphasises continuity more than discontinuity as part of the dogma of evolution.
Aristotle voices a deep held human conviction that discontinuities are absolute so that a stone cannot be alive and that all states of life are bound. We might be made of inert chemicals but we possess life and this life force is common to all life, nevertheless plant life is not animal life. All animals are complex but there is a scale of sensitivity and sentience ultimately is expressed in the otherness of humanity. Aristotle’s ideas are rejected in modern science, believing that in time all is resolved into evolutionary paths from subatomic particles, to life, to man.


Russell brings the language of continuity and discontinuity into an engagement with future cosmology and theories about thermodynamics but not looking at living entities other than as properties of the fabric of space and time and the processes that happened within creation. He also believes in evolution which I hope to show is legitimate, but not necessarily right. I do this without accepting Russell’s omission of the Fall as an event.


My primary source of evidence is scripture. I am not well read in Aristotle or Philosophy and am not very schooled in Theology, Evolution or Cosmology. I hope I have a voice though.
I believe the moment of creation anticipates all that is to come but it is to be expected that the facts of creation can be legitimately interpreted otherwise.


Hebrews 11:1-3 (ESV) 1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. 2 For by it the people of old received their commendation. 3 By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.


The bible makes it clear that it is faith that reads the evidence and it has to be true that looking at the same facts, it is consistent but not necessarily acceptable to conclude that what we see is not the work of a creator.


I think that each word spoken by God at creation represented a speaking of a discontinuity in the continuity of creation as do the events of the Fall, incarnation, crucifixion and resurrection, and that in creation each anticipates what is to come until the final judgement and coming of the new creation.


Man’s current best effort at explaining the cosmos is that what we see is the result of blind chance. It has to be acknowledged that this is a legitimate conclusion something that Russell points out.


As a digression, Russell intimates that amongst scientists deep questions are being asked about the nature of time. An example of this is that some of the eminent scientists engaged in work on the Hadron Collider seriously suggest that the bosons formed in the future by the collider are hindering their discovery by sabotaging the science.


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/science/space/13lhc.html


And so even in science we can see how time is a matter for discussion.


Time
The bible does not give us the mandate to try to prove God through science or scripture. However having the faith that what God says in the bible is indeed true then we have the opportunity to have our eyes opened more as what God says informs what we see. We can view the Bible as God’s revelation over time and in our reading we read each passage in the knowledge of what has happened in Christ and what it says is to come. But those who wrote the Bible were not so apprised.


Beginning with Genesis, we read that God speaks out creation, first forming it then filling it. It is a picture seen from God’s perspective and tells us that God prepared a place that he might rest in communion with mankind. There is no reason given in the Genesis narrative why a transcendent God creates, communing with man and sustaining and providing for what he has made.


In God’s days we see that God speaks out distinctiveness within the creation and we can see how the origins of the discontinuities in creation, commented on by Aristotle, could have their origin in the days of creation. We also see the continuities as it is the soil that brings forth life and Adam is formed from dust.


It has to be true that God continues to sustain and provide for his creation with the words he spoke at the beginning but Genesis gives us no hint of processes nor a necessity for over interpretation and pseudo science; arguments about days seem fruitless and inappropriate when what we are discussing is clearly not a scientific document.


There is no reason not to see here a form of divinely ordained evolution. There is also no reason not to accept a plain six days of creation, nor for that matter to see the bible as a load of nonsense and that there is no Creator.


The bible requires us to have faith that God created and that he spoke out creation and his words form, sustain and provide for what is spoken.


Indeed in the quote from Romans 8 we can see how in our own salvation we are justified by the word of God’s grace, redeemed and regenerated and through our lives, sanctified. Our salvation I believe is secured on the day we believe and through the Holy Spirit we are sanctified, perfect yet perfected by the lives we live.


I see the forming of creation by the power of God’s word as a foundation for my hope of salvation spoken by the same God on the day I believed. What he has begun he will surely complete and it is complete from eternity, spoken by a transcendent God who speaks all things into being.


This God is love. To make sense of why a transcendent loving God created and became involved in creation, we need to leap forward in time to the incarnation and crucifixion of Christ. It is in the cross that creation finds meaning because in the cross we have the revelation of the transcended glory of God, a God who died to reconcile sinful men to him because he loves them and will renew not destroy creation. So creation anticipates Christ and salvation in scripture.


Ephesians 1:3-7 (ESV) 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace,


I believe that it is for this reason that after the creation of man


Genesis 1:31 (ESV) …God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.


It was very good because God transcends time and in creation, in its fabric, is the hope of Christ which makes it very good;


1 Corinthians 15:21-23 (ESV) 21 For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.
God rested on the seventh day. The seventh day has no end marked in the narrative of Genesis and I believe this is because God dwells now with man, entering into a relationship with humanity. I believe we live in that day in the experience and anticipation of rest as we have faith and dwell in God and that day will never end until time ends. The idea of rest here is one of completeness; now the transcendent God can dwell in his creation, echoing the language of the completion of the temple (ESV study Bible).Genesis 2:1-3


Casting man out of the Garden of Eden broke this intimate communion but it was ever God’s intention and purpose for God to dwell with man; that the Word would become flesh. God manifested this rest in his people Israel, through the work of Abraham and Moses and the temple worship.


God is present now with man in Christ who sends the Spirit to his church where Father and Son dwell. The Church becomes the body whose purpose is fulfilled in the last days,


Revelation 21:1-3 (ESV) 1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God.

That day is appointed for those God has chosen; those who are obedient to him. Hebrews 4:4-6
From this we get an inkling of how from the beginning the “rest” of the seventh day for man is through obedience to God in Christ and how in Christ, grace is glorified. God always acts to bring glory to himself.


We also see that in creation there are those chosen in Christ for eternity. This sovereign choosing is part of the mystery of God transcendent. Our experience of God is that he responds to our obedience and gives us the awful freedom of will that allows us to do the things he forbids. Our freedom is limited by this choice but God’s is totally free and perfect since he alone is good.


The Fall
To sin is the choice Adam made. This was an event in history, the Fall, and I believe God’s response to it, judgement, marks a discontinuity in the created order; “the radical transformation of the background conditions of space, time, matter and causality” .


Russell seems to consign Adam to mythology and sin as an inevitable consequence of the natural order. He refers to natural evil as a property of creation which in his reasoning becomes good in that it is finally wrapped up through the cross in the new creation.


I do not see that the biblical evidence supports this theodicy: it is not a convincing defence of God’s goodness in the face of evil for me, as it discards the revelation of scripture that it was through Adam that sin came into the creation and in my opinion to believe otherwise makes nonsense of scripture.


For example the reading of Romans 8 becomes quite meaningless. We are told


Romans 8:20-22 (ESV) 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now.
I think evil is something that opposes the will of God and is a result of an event in time. When God spoke creation into being, the sin of Adam, Christ the new Adam and the new creation, resounded and it was very good as creation’s fullness brings glory to God through grace and love fills all in all in the fullness of time.

I think the Fall, the incarnation, death and resurrection of Christ and his return making all things new, fill time and are events in time, since it is the transcendent God who acts in historical time. So what God said was good, was good.


This conclusion may be the same as Russell’s but I believe the difference in reasoning is important. The God who subjected the creation did this in hope and yet because he was God this was a certainty in Christ; even in these verses we see the interaction between God involved in time and God transcendent. The use of the word “hope” here is interesting as it indicates a degree of freedom in the response the creation will bring, displaying the self limiting nature of God even in the certainty of the cross.


When Adam sinned, all creation fell subject to death and decay, as a judgement from God and it was at this juncture that natural evil; suffering and purposelessness, entered creation. God pronounced a curse on creation for the praise of his glorious grace in the hope that it would turn back to him.


For this reason, by whatever process God brought creation into being, up to the time of Adam, it was not evil, as its working and character were within the perfect will of God. It was the eating of the fruit that brought the knowledge of good and evil and ended the freedom Adam and the woman knew. We see this when we read of creation from man’s perspective. The pains of childbirth, which could refer to the anguish of bringing up children not necessarily their birthing, were a result of this curse and Paul likens these to the pains creation suffers, which could refer to the suffering created as a result of sickness, greed and disease, and we suffer together with the Cosmos in anticipation of the end of the age. Man is now a slave to sin and spiritually dead choosing to disobey God and not trust him. Genesis 2:16-17


As the whole of creation fell because of the disobedience of Adam, I believe there was a discontinuity as evil perverted the course of creation in time. In the Genesis narrative, God no longer speaks of creation as being good. His first ten words of creation I believe reveal God’s view of the whole of creation, transcendent, but as he sees sin it is not good. Now, jealousy and murder reign, and angels rebel. Pride and lust rule the peoples and things go from bad to worse as men worship the created rather than the creator and learn to fear gods who are not gods.


Disease, decay and futility characterise the altered creation; what was once good and pure becomes perverted because of the disobedience of Adam as his dominion becomes as lawless as him, subject to sin and death because he is subject to sin and death. His dominion of creation, a good gift God gave him, becomes a curse for creation. Therefore there will be continuity in creation between the pre and post Fall universe but a discontinuity marked with violence, greed, disease, futility and suffering as we see now.


As the transcendent God spoke into being the whole of creation, his ordering and filling of it I believe anticipated the evil of the sin of Adam from the beginning. I think the process of creation equipped creation to survive disease and avoid danger for example. I feel that this event in space and time resounds through all space and time and it is woven into the fabric of creation for the praise of God’s glorious grace, just as, in the fullness of time, the incarnation and crucifixion does and the second coming will. Creation before the Fall will be similar to that after but different in one way; evil and the powers and the principalities of the air will be active in perverting the course of history on a microscopic and cosmic scale.


I think there is no reason to believe that violence and decay were not always part of creation, since God is seen to act through violence and decay in first cursing and judging the world and when God acts it is not evil. The curse is a good work of God! Decay is a vital process as are the predator-prey, symbiosis and carrion processes; our distaste for it does not make it evil; the evil is not in the unclean process but in its character, its heart as Jesus declares.


Mark 7:21-23 (ESV) 21 For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, 22 coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.”

We look at creation with post Fall eyes and minds. Basically I believe the processes of creation will look the same throughout time but spiritual powers allowed to work within creation, through the sin of man, changed the nature or character of the processes within it to being futile so that sin, fear and death now reign because of what Jesus speaks of and because of suffering.


Surely on the day of creation God spoke the natural cycles and created life anticipating the Fall and Christ and since the Fall creation has groaned in anticipation of its restoration and deliverance from the futility that now besets it.


Conclusions
I suggest that each moment of God’s involvement in the world as told by the scriptures and experienced in our lives is proleptically present or immanent in all time; creation anticipated each, weaving them into the fabric of the garment of creation.


God transcendent speaks into being creation. In fact, as Russell suggests, the eschaton, the end of the ages, is initiated in God speaking, “Let there be light” and out of nothing everything is made; the act of creation holds its end in its beginning, as I believe does every moment of God’s involvement.


Romans 8:28 (ESV) And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

I feel this position not only offers Christians hope in a world full of futility but a point of interaction with scientific truth, providing a confident position from which to present a credible scriptural theodicy that includes the truth of judgement and the glories of God’s grace.


I do not share Russell’s hope that it will provide avenues of scientific investigation. It is key that this way of seeing is a matter of faith in God and trusting in his goodness and grace and is not contingent on any scientific investigation. Without God there are no discontinuities, which is what scientists report. Our response still is to believe in Jesus and receive salvation by faith and by faith alone, safe in the knowledge that “all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.”


Could it be that we see things otherwise because we are acting out the fulfilment of the curse of the tree of Eden and underestimating the need for the freedom offered by the tree of the crucifixion? Blinded by our pride in judging good and evil, we miss the revelation of faith. Freedom from the tyranny of evil brought by the death of the One, Christ, who died cursed on a tree, and rose from the dead so that all might have eternal life through him passes us by.


Convinced of our basic goodness and ability to judge everything by scientific observation and our moral sense, we fail to appreciate the depths of our sin, its offence to God, the wrath of a Holy God and the glories of his grace found in the gospel of salvation.


Centred on the cross and rightly discerning God, we are constantly brought to a fullness of the knowledge of God and we cry “Holy, Holy, Holy are you God!” In our whole being we can trust God and put our faith in him as Creator


Romans 5:17-18 (ESV) 17 For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. 18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

Praise the glories of his grace! This will not be a scientifically observable fact.


How does this help us today? In theology we need to be focused on the nature of God and a credible understanding of Him for people today; free will and Gods sovereignty need to be explained again for this present time. Suffering and the problems of evil, need to be addressed in modern contexts. In science; the Big Bang Cosmology, Quantum mechanics and Evolution are giant theories that seek to explain our present. Life. The Mind and Time are mysteries fought over by materialists and mystics; physics and metaphysics; and need to be talked about for everyman by those who have faith in God.


Contemplation of God, transcendent and immanent and engagement with the sciences I believe will be fruitful avenues of human thought in the coming years.


I don’t think believing in the God of the bible is intellectual suicide but the most likely foundation for the advancement of science and human understanding, as it has ever been. And just maybe, by recognising that there is continuity and discontinuity in life and cosmology, we will have dialog with mainstream science without recourse to wacky science.


This brings us back to an earlier point; we should not be put off by failing to see eye-to-eye. The bible says belief in creation is by faith and therefore there must be more than one credible explanation to the facts.


Because God is true, the truth is, God created everything seen and unseen for the praise of his glorious grace and all truth is subject to this truth. However, I can only know this by faith because the bible tells me so. This is not the place for arrogance because arrogance will not convince anyone especially if our only authority, the bible is made to look foolish by half baked ideas in fields we do not understand.


Daniel 1:20 (ESV) And in every matter of wisdom and understanding about which the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and enchanters that were in all his kingdom.

It is important that Christians engage with science as if it is credible and give due honour to those whose craft it is. We are free to explore the wonders of creation as people of faith within science and must give those with talents liberty to become experts in their field and, like Daniel in Babylon, become enriched masters of science, as is Russell, true to the Creator and his revealed word.

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Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:31:00 -0700 Carping and Complaining http://youlot.posterous.com/2009/04/carping-and-complaining.html http://youlot.posterous.com/2009/04/carping-and-complaining.html I am aware that in myself, my disposition is to be grumpy and critical. I am cursed with making judgements and often fall into the trap of voicing them. For me it appears that submission and meekness are counter cultural; nowhere in popular culture am I challenged in this or do I see theses attributes praised.
Submission and meekness are not portrayed as virtues. For the most part they are feared as the gateway to abuse and we are generally encouraged to be assertive and to stand up for our rights. And this is not wrong. Submission and meekness carry the colour of guilt; they are dark, dull and dusty. They are giving in, we feel.
We are taught this by experience but Christians are taught to obey, forgive trespasses and leave vengeance to God. We are to be meek and submissive in the way Christ was, not holding back in the face of hypocrisy to protect the poor and needy but being silent and restrained in his own defence.
We are to be counter cultural for meekness and submission are pure joy in Christ, the way of wisdom, the way of humility and they bring light into our lives. And if we do not live them, their absence brings death and darkness to our family and friends. We are called to live them for the glory of God.
You may ask why children walk away from their family faith or why their families avoid churches. I think the answer is close to home. It is the carping and complaining they associate with faith, expressed in overt and subtle ways. The back-hand slap of judgement they hear directed at the church and brothers and sisters in the faith spoken with the same mouth as God is worshipped is keenly observed. We gain a reputation for being harsh, steely eyed and self satisfied because of the way we speak of others, barely concealing our bitterness in the way we talk. And because we stand for Christ, Christ is rejected!
For Christ’s sake, be the first to bring down these walls of division. Let it start with me. What we see and observe may be true but we have no excuse to carp and complain; we need to be those who restrain themselves and close our mouths not saying what we are at liberty to say; be meek and submit to the authority of Christ who is the Lord of all.
Reading the psalms and proverbs as a discipline has helped me. You learn quickly about foolishness and the tongue and through the psalms, how to express your anxieties to God. A season of reading and praying five psalms and one proverb each day might help.

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